[QUOTE=Frank;33624]No, I'm trying to make clear that it's not a punishment. You'd be refunded for your effort in some way, a way that you'd all need to agree with, naturally.
And to be clear, this is another Dalton fuck up.. yes.
******Punishment is perhaps the wrong term. Penalized is perhaps better because there is nothing being offered that comes close to being equal to what the time, strategic actions and irl money thru bonds purchased to gain or make it easier to gain thru row and membership some of the items that are being discussed. I dont think there is any way that we, as a group of players, are going to agree on this issue. One group will lose things they already have whether compensated or not while one group loses nothing but gains a projected potential outcome. To strip away and take things earned or purchased for a chance, a maybe potential scenario, to me sounds like the 'fuck up' not what has already occurred. *****
I'm sorry but in this situation your personal experience and beliefs are a non factor. You're not the average player, your personal achievements posted are beyond most. I don't mean that as an insult. Also, you'll enjoy raids for the exact same reasons you love bossing.
***** Actually everyones personal feelings, beliefs and experiences are quite valid factors since they are the reasons the choice was made to play this server and continue to play it, support it with irl donations and vote for it. Your projections of what will happen if items are not removed, your feelings, are what drives you to make those assumptions. Its simple facts that I am 'not the average player' in just about every way possible, including non botted non afk play time no arguments there and certainly no offense taken. It possibly gives me a quite different prospective for my assessments but regardless my personal differences dont make my arguments a 'non factor'.
(I will not 'love raids' for the same reason I cant do some of the bosses. Its not pleasant to have my disability smacking me in the face and I dont want to be carried by players that are able to click precisely and make timely weapon and armor switches. It still stings that I was told told to go stand in a corner out of the way on BS before doing that quest where you had the 2 rooms to kill in less than a min from one another. Because I kept miss clicking on the 3rd attempt they said just follow us and stay out of the way....Its one reason I rarely boss with other people or boss with people that wont get upset at my miss clicks because I dont do things like most players do and have to figure out what works best for me on my own.) *******
People are doing them because they're desperate for content. Content dies without relevancy.. See where I'm going with this?
****People do it for the rewards and as I have heard Dalton say more than once resetting, because essentially if you take away part of things earned from everyone thats a sort of reset, has been a downfall that to this day has been hard to overcome. People dont want resets and the past decisions to reset have been disastrous and part of the reason people are hesitant to play according to himI have had people try to talk me into playing osrs and others servers for the same reasonings. Yes content dies without relevancy. Its the player base that determines relevancy. We are gaining new players every day with whats being offered and Daltons continued and consistent involvement and wizard like coding skills
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None of these items are real.. You're a Dalton falling over a laptop away from having nothing. You determine what's suitable! As a poll based majority..
*****Real meh they are pixels not physically tangible but what is real is time investment and money spent. Its Daltons past non involvement, from what other players have told me and what I observed in the BS before this one, that has hurt the Battlescape mantra as well. That can only be corrected with actions and time. I honestly feel that were he to have been around for the BS before like he has been this release that that one would still be flourishing. Yes I am aware that with the press of a button or a laptop disaster that BS could be gone in a flash. It happened with the BS before and that was sad but survivable lol.*****
Something like that could work, could well be the easiest solution tbh.
*****YES the players can keep their non raid gained items and the raid gained items be differentiated in some way. it would add more diversified content and help BS offer something other servers dont have further making us stand out. ****
PS I WISH THIS TOPIC WAS PLACED INTO ITS OWN THREAD WITH A TITLE THAT REFLECTED ITS CONTENT SO OTHERS MIGHT BE MORE APT TO COMMENT...