De wae

[Frank]

There is a huge difference in what someone is 'willing to lose' as opposed to what someone has no choice of losing or to an extent what its replaced with. I dont get the staker mentality in part because I am not a staker, I even say quite often never love a staker because they always lose eventually and leave . As you mentioned in another post pvmers and skillers are the constants in this game, while pkers are more apt to move on. I think stakers are in that realm as well. I hate to see anyone leave but perhaps its just the way different personalities are wired and nothing can change that base temperment I dunno.

Creepy shit ingame, ya I really dont but as long as its adults and with in the stated rules and not against the law, meh live n let live is my life motto.

Creepy as in none of those things. I was replying differently to him yes because I happen to actually know his situation lol I'm not going to be like yes your fictitious point is just as valid as mine good fellow! No one's saying people haven't grinded, everyone can appreciate that.

I don't value keeping those items over the relevancy of raids. We need more players. First and foremost. I see it as for growth or for keeping your banks, hence comments of greed.

(Iron people can keep theirs in my happy little outlook)